Wallstreet Forex Robot
The first thought I had about this EA was something along the lines of “omg lolz what an uninspired name, nobody trades Forex on the Wall Street”. Ok, I don’t really think in terms of “omg” or “lolz” and I am much harsher than “uninspired”, but that was the main train of thought. At first glance, I believed it to be yet another Asian session scalper and I was wondering if it’s just a copy of an existing EA or something original. But when I got to inspecting the opening times of the positions, lo and behold: I noticed that it wasn’t restricted to the Asian session; trades were being opened in the forward tests all around the clock! You don’t really see many 24/5 scalpers nowadays and given my very suspicious nature I was inclined to believe it’s some kind of a scam. Many EA sellers have been caught going as far as faking statement results and to clear my doubts I naturally proceeded to ask for a Wall Street Forex Robot review copy, request that has been granted with a very prompt email answer.
The fact that I’m now writing about it should be clear indication that I don’t consider it to be a scam in any way: it’s a truly original scalper that trades several pairs around the clock and it seems to manage scraping a nice profit off it. The pairs it runs on are EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, USDCHF and to a lesser extent USDCAD, although the last one is not even mentioned in the manual and I only happen to know about it because the author mentioned it. As many other scalpers nowadays, it runs on the M15 timeframe, so there’s nothing out of the ordinary there.
Strategy
Well, you already know the important facts: Wall Street Forex Robot is a scalper, it runs 24/5, it uses the M15 timeframe and the pairs recommended by the vendor are EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY and USDCHF, while USDCAD is working but not officially supported.
The manual is a bit confusing on the topic of the supported pairs as in the beginning only EURUSD, GBPUSD and USDJPY are mentioned, but later on it proceeds to mention USDCHF as well; in addition, as you will see, USDCHF is present in the backtests on the product website as well as in the official live forward test.
There are a few other things that you should know and I’ll try to briefly list them. Although you can manually configure the SL & TP for each pair, it’s probably not a good idea to do it. The EA updates its settings from the server upon a successful authentication, configuring (among other things) the preset values for each pair; the stop loss ranges from 120 pips on EURUSD and GBPUSD to as high as 160 on USDCHF, while the TP is around 25 pips, with the notable exceptions of GBPUSD where it’s 50 and USDCAD where it’s 14. The stop loss is rarely hit, though: from what I could see in the backtests, like any sensible scalper EA, it’s able to close the trades before they hit SL in most cases when the market goes against it, the average win:average loss ratio being roughly 1:2.75. Just like its ability to close trades before they hit SL, it has an ability to take profit early, before its positions hit the take profit target, when it figures that’s as many pips as the market is going to give it.
The strategy itself is not excessively complex: it uses a few of the indicators that are shipped with Metatrader in a creative way to determine entry signals. While I was taking a look at this, I also checked its order sending and I noticed it has retry loops for opening/closing orders, denoting a certain degree of experience with automated live trading. Although the DLL programming can sometimes be a problem for EAs running on multiple pairs with the same DLL, in this case it seems to be fully thread safe.
The Wallstreet Robot averages about 3.5 trades per day when running on the recommended four pairs and almost 5 trades per day when running on all five, so it qualifies as a rather frequent trading EA. Since it trades around the clock, there’s no GMT setting, so (thankfully) that’s not something that we have to worry about in this case.
The EA is fully compliant with the NFA rules: since it doesn’t open more than one trade at once on each instrument traded, there are no problems with FIFO and hedging. Careful, though: operating it together with other EAs that trade the same pairs on an account with the NFA restrictions in place might result in one of the EAs not being able to open trades.
Website
If you don’t know it by now, I’m blunt. So, I’m sorry, mr. vendor, but I dislike the Wall Street Forex website. It’s an amalgam of classic marketing stuff with fonts of all kinds of sizes and colors and I’m inclined to believe it’s a genuine attempt to blind me. It’s probably what made me think I was dealing with a scam in the first place.
There is some interesting info, too, if your mouse wheel can take the scrollfest. Four 1999-2011 backtests can be found, but they’re performed using a large lot on a low starting balance, resulting in some rather large drawdowns, despite the steep ascending balance curve. More interesting than that, there is a live Alpari account running the EA since December 2010 and three Alpari demos, but I didn’t really understand what’s the difference between the demos other than the starting date. All of the accounts are stamped with the independent verification of myfxbook. You can scroll directly to the HTML abominations that encompass a scrolling account statement in a graphic frame (which are impossible to miss as they tend to fill the whole screen) and then scroll up just a tad to get to the live results. Come to think of it, the site is so loaded with various stuff that I felt the need to provide directions and I almost forgot that I can also link the myfxbook widget here:
There’s a scary notice at the top of the page that states only 200 copies are going to be sold but I am taking the liberty to disbelieve that. Anyway, if you’re reading this, chances are you’re not much into that marketing style either, so I ask you to disregard the website and proceed with the review. An ugly website is no reason to dismiss a good product and after all it’s just a matter of taste. Who knows, perhaps some people actually like this marketing style.
But all this rant made me almost forget a very important detail mentioned on the website: the EA is already available for Metatrader 5. Buying the MT4 version will also give you access to the MT5 version, which is available for download in the members’ section.
Parameters
The only parameter that you really have to set is the AutoMM. This is basically the risk that the EA runs with and failing to configure it will make the EA trade a constant 0.1 lot size. I’m going to run my forward test with AutoMM set to 3, but I suspect many of you will set it to something like 5. Unless you want to use fixed lots, that is, in which case you’ll have to change the default of 0.1 to your desired lot size.
There is also a RecoveryMode parameter, which I strongly recommend not enabling. While it may lead to apparently higher gains, it will surely increase the drawdown dramatically. Even the manual makes a similar recommendation. There’s also another parameter for limiting the maximum risk per trade, which is configured to 20 by default and you’d probably do well to leave it there, it’s in essence a safety setting.
The Wallstreet Robot features a StealthMode parameter and you’re likely better off disabling it unless you suspect your broker of misbehaving. I’ve recently seen some very heavy losses due to a similar setting with a different EA.
Instead of using the pair defaults, any user can configure the pair parameters manually. The stop loss, take profit, secure profit and secure profit trigger can be configured, which should give many weeks of busy CPU time to the computers of the people who are into optimizations.
All the parameters are described in the manual and there’s a whole chapter dedicated to money management which explains how to correctly configure the EA to use the risk that you want, but an additional thing that you have to keep in mind is that each currency pair has its own inherent risk and while running the EA on multiple pairs usually means smoothed out drawdowns, there will be times when it also means combined drawdowns. The manual also features a backtesting chapter that I carefully disregarded and proceeded to doing it my own way (which is almost the same when it comes to history center data anyway). It also contains some really sensible broker advice and no affiliate links, which kind of surprised me, given the product website.
The EA features a HUD (a chart display, if you will) more or less in the same style as KangarooEA but with a bit less information. Most importantly, it displays the lots it will trade, the current spread and trade status along with the authentication result.
Backtesting
As usual, I began by running history center data backtests on the 1999-2011 time range. I chose an average spread for each pair:
- EURUSD: 2.0 pips
- GBPUSD: 2.0 pips
- USDJPY: 2.0 pips
- USDCHF: 2.5 pips
- USDCAD: 3.0 pips
Sure, if your account is on an ECN broker you will have lower spreads and that’s going to affect the performance of the EA in a positive way. However, if you’re using a fixed spread broker, the spreads might be higher and in the case of the Wall Street Forex Robot it’s probably not a good idea to use such an account.
All the backtests performed on history center data were using the default settings for all parameters except the AutoMM which was set to 3. During the whole review, I’ve used a GO Markets terminal for all the backtests and FXT file creation.
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 1999-2011 EURUSD M15 history center data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 1999-2011 GBPUSD M15 history center data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 1999-2011 USDJPY M15 history center data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 1999-2011 USDCHF M15 history center data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 1999-2011 USDCAD M15 history center data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
GBPUSD outperformed all the others, but EURUSD, USDJPY and USDCHF are also displaying a nice, constantly ascending balance curve. USDCAD on the other hand looks quite chaotic and I guess that’s why it’s not an officially supported pair. I will definitely not include it in the forward test, but I will run the other backtests on it as well, for the sake of consistency. The reason for the USDCAD weird balance curve is probably the poor average win:loss ratio, despite its high percentage of winning trades.
To save you the trouble of clicking each balance chart, I made a small table with some relevant data for each backtest. Speaking of which, many of my readers don’t seem to know they’re clickable so here it is: clicking one of the backtest result charts will load the whole backtest statement in your browser.
| Currency pair | Net profit | Relative drawdown | Profit factor | Expected payoff | Profit trades | Average profit:loss |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EURUSD | 53505.54 | 13.47% | 1.88 | 28.31 | 83.97% | 1:2.79 |
| GBPUSD | 207559.46 | 18.67% | 1.82 | 111.71 | 77.45% | 1:1.89 |
| USDJPY | 22846.34 | 12.18% | 1.40 | 13.24 | 74.22% | 1:2.06 |
| USDCHF | 48432.26 | 12.70% | 1.36 | 16.21 | 82.89% | 1:3.56 |
| USDCAD | 13284.28 | 20.06% | 1.12 | 2.87 | 86.00% | 1:5.47 |
I proceeded to perform some backtests on Dukascopy tick data next, using fixed spreads equal to those used with the history center data above. The EA settings were also the same: all defaults with AutoMM set to 3.
The GBPUSD and EURUSD are still the reigning pairs, just as in the previous backtest series. Surprisingly, the USDCAD looks better, but that’s still not reason enough for me to use it in forward testing, especially given the fact that it’s not an official pair and I tend to go with the out-of-the-box settings if possible. If you decide to run USDCAD even on demo, please be so kind to drop a comment with your results after a month or so.
I’m going to put together yet another table for you, this time with the tick data fixed spread results:
| Currency pair | Net profit | Relative drawdown | Profit factor | Expected payoff | Profit trades | Average profit:loss |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EURUSD | 21883.64 | 10.22% | 1.87 | 22.04 | 84.09% | 1:2.82 |
| GBPUSD | 40734.62 | 19.67% | 1.75 | 41.65 | 79.65% | 1:2.23 |
| USDJPY | 8735.06 | 8.34% | 1.49 | 10.65 | 74.02% | 1:1.91 |
| USDCHF | 6649.38 | 13.02% | 1.31 | 7.73 | 74.88% | 1:2.28 |
| USDCAD | 13686.47 | 15.35% | 1.27 | 7.52 | 84.73% | 1:4.39 |
I also merged and analyzed the results for EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY and USDCHF (in other words, I excluded USDCAD). To get relevant results, I set all the trades to lot size to 0.3, which is the value obtained from running the EA with an AutoMM of 3 on a 10k balance. As such, the chart below would’ve had a much larger ending balance with the original lot sizes, but for the purpose of our analysis, this is good enough:
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, merged results for the fixed spread tick data backtests for EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY and USDCHF.
The overall average monthly return is somewhere around 8.3%, while the combined maximal relative drawdown lies around 20%, which is what I was targeting as a maximum figure when I selected an AutoMM of 3. Many trades (over a third) are closed within one hour while the majority of trades (over 80%) does not last over 5 hours. Generally, the longer a trade is prolonged, the lower the chance of ending up with a profit from it. The average profit factor is 1.59, while the winning trades constitute a 78% of the total, with an average win:loss ratio of 1:2.28. I also ran a quick Monte Carlo projection, which I am only going to link here because not many people are interested.
Finally, I ran some backtests using the real Dukascopy spread and adding a commission of 0.8 pips:
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 2007-2011 EURUSD M15 tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 2007-2011 GBPUSD M15 tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 2007-2011 USDJPY M15 tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 2007-2011 USDCHF M15 tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.6, 2007-2011 USDCAD M15 tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
The results look about the same as those obtained on a fixed spread but as expected, due to the commission and variable spread, they were slightly poorer.
I used my Average Spread EA to check out the spread of the whole data and let’s see what it looks like on the real spread files (it does not include the commission, that’s added on top of the spread):
| Currency pair | Smoothed min spread | Average spread | Smoothed max spread |
|---|---|---|---|
| EURUSD | 0.66 | 1.17 | 1.87 |
| GBPUSD | 1.18 | 2.05 | 3.35 |
| USDJPY | 0.70 | 1.32 | 1.95 |
| USDCHF | 1.29 | 1.96 | 2.95 |
| USDCAD | 1.90 | 2.63 | 3.85 |
When adding the commission, this is sensibly larger than the fixed spreads I used so it makes a lot of sense to have results that are slightly worse, but I guess these are more realistic. Since I made tables for the two other backtest series, I decided to create one for this as well, just in case you want to compare the results:
| Currency pair | Net profit | Relative drawdown | Profit factor | Expected payoff | Profit trades | Average profit:loss |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EURUSD | 16776.70 | 12.41% | 1.74 | 16.78 | 84.10% | 1:3.03 |
| GBPUSD | 25562.40 | 20.04% | 1.57 | 26.49 | 78.55% | 1:2.33 |
| USDJPY | 6491.61 | 9.72% | 1.38 | 7.96 | 73.04% | 1:1.97 |
| USDCHF | 4213.53 | 16.86% | 1.21 | 4.97 | 75.00% | 1:2.47 |
| USDCAD | 5606.10 | 16.44% | 1.14 | 3.19 | 83.80% | 1:4.53 |
New pairs and settings
Recent versions of the Wallstreet Forex Robot have added support for AUDUSD and NZDUSD, together with a whole new setting for EURUSD with a tight 33 pip stoploss. This naturally prompted me to revisit the article and include the backtests of the new pairs but unfortunately I’ve been caught up in a whole bunch of other stuff and this update is coming many weeks later than it should have.
Initially, I only ran tick data backtests using the Dukascopy data with variable spread but when I noticed I mistakenly ran them with risk 2, making them not easily comparable with the previous backtests, I decided to also run some history center data backtests and some tick data backtests with risk 3, all of which you will find below.
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 EURUSD M15 backtest 1999-2011, history center data, spread 1.0, EURUSD33 default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 EURUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, EURUSD33 default settings, AutoMM 2
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 EURUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, EURUSD33 default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 AUDUSD M15 backtest 1999-2011, history center data, spread 1.5, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 AUDUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 2
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 AUDUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 NZDUSD M15 backtest 1999-2011, history data, spread 2.0, default settings, AutoMM 3
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 NZDUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 2
Wall Street Forex Robot 3.9 AUDUSD M15 backtest 2007-2011, tick data, real spread, default settings, AutoMM 3
Of the three, I would say the new EURUSD setting is the most exciting item but I won’t switch my forward test to it simply because I prefer to keep it as close to “factory settings” as possible. Wallstreet Forex Robot also performs rather nicely on AUDUSD, in line with the other pairs. However, when it comes to NZDUSD, even though the backtest seems to indicate a decent performance, the amount of trades taken is a lot lower than for the other pairs, so the backtest is not as relevant as the others. Both new pairs have been added to my forward test a while ago and I will keep them there and let the live performance speak for itself: just use the custom analysis option on myfxbook to get an idea.
Conclusion
Personally, I like Wall Street Forex Robot, otherwise I wouldn’t have written a review. It does have a few drawbacks, though, and when I say this I am not only referring to the style of the website, but also to the rather steep price: a copy costs $489. The whole deal is sweetened by the fact that it’s licensed to run on three live accounts and that a MT5 version is already available, but it’s still not something that I would count as a cheap product. With a $1000 account, you’d have to run it for something like half an year with risk 3 just to have it make a profit equal to the investment in the EA, so I’m guessing it’s targeting people with larger account sizes. Finally, there’s a $50 discount exclusive to eareview.net readers, bringing the price down to $439 – all you have to do is buy using this link to take advantage of it.
Sure, given the fact that it’s pretty much the only scalper that I know of that’s profitable and opens positions around the clock, I can see how the high price might be justified. The official forward test seems to be fully in line with my backtest results, so it looks very promising so far. Finally, it’s worth mentioning that there’s a 60 day refund policy, conditioned upon the EA failing to produce profit.
Forward test
Due to the spread requirements, I was planning to go with a GO Markets L-Plate live account, but as it turns out there’s a limit of one per customer. As such, I set up a LiteForex floating spread live account for it. It’s running with the default settings (including recovery mode which is disabled), the only change being that I set AutoMM to 2 for all pairs. The live forward test was started on 29.03.2011.
Details
Version used: 3.6
Pairs and timeframes: EURUSD M15, GBPUSD M15, USDJPY M15, USDCHF M15, USDCAD M15
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Pairs and timeframes: EURUSD M15, GBPUSD M15, USDJPY M15, USDCHF M15, USDCAD M15
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- #233 written by jonus AUGUST 12, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)What do you people expect? This EA drops a 120p loss in your laps and you wonder why? The better question is why the Hell are you using a system that uses such a huge Stop Loss? I recommend risk of around 1% (Lots x SLpips) when using multiple concurrent profiles (Pair/TF). A losing streak such as 2 wins and 11 losses can happen anytime and if youre using 2% or more risk, well, you do the math, Ouch! Especially when those wins are not BIG winners, you will feel the pain.Keep in mind that backtesting in MT should show solid results. If you cant achieve a factor of 10:1 Performance to Draw Down ratio, with DD around or below 10% then theres a good chance the system will have realized DDs in the 20s or even 30s.
- #234 written by birt AUGUST 12, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)I agree: revenue is not the only function that is using risk as its parameter; drawdown is also factoring risk in its calculation and this is what everyone’s primary concern should be. If someone is using risk 5+, they’re setting themselves up for high drawdowns which are generally very hard to stomach, no matter how much profits were made in the meantime. It’s the #1 reason I use conservative risks generally.11 losses in a row as Jonus mentioned above is an extremely unlikely scenario but nonetheless it’s not impossible.
- #235 written by birt AUGUST 12, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #236 written by Ash AUGUST 13, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)I am using a 60pip stop running on my live account and have had no problems with this Bot – Not very often this stop gets hit as the Bot has some algorithms within the code which I’m not sure what they are that takes you out of trades at like -17, -24 etc not the full stop.So far I have been happy using this
- #237 written by robb AUGUST 13, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #238 written by birt SEPTEMBER 11, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #239 written by birt SEPTEMBER 13, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)I received a newsletter today and here’s what the author has to say about the recent performance:We would like to share our point of view regarding the current performance of WallStreet Forex Robot.
Most of you might have noticed that WallStreet Forex Robot has not been performing so well in the past few weeks.
Some major events concerning the world economy made the Forex market a bit more unpredictable and unstable.
Of course, such events are normal to appear occasionally, but they do not last long.
That’s why, we expect an increase of the performance of WallStreet Forex Robot very soon.
The market has already started to stabilize, so it is only a question of time our Expert Advisor to reveal its potential once again on 100%.In addition, discount coupons are available on both the single and the full license until the end of September 2011.Full license coupon code (25% discount which brings the price to $449): WFL25PD
Single license coupon code (15% discount bringing the price to $249): WSL15PDMake sure you use the coupon codes if you decide to buy this month.- #240 written by Michael SEPTEMBER 16, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #241 written by Mark SEPTEMBER 14, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #242 written by ROBB SEPTEMBER 14, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #243 written by hkjonus SEPTEMBER 16, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #244 written by birt SEPTEMBER 16, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)My cut is money and chicks for free! Oh, and also free beer! Joking aside, I’m an affiliate so I get a commission on sales, this much should be obvious. I would happily mention the commission but seeing that they don’t disclose it on their affiliates page, I figure it’s not my place to do so. Suffice to say that it’s pretty much in line with other Forex products.These being said, most of the EAs I have in forward testing had a very difficult time in August, even EAs that have been profitable for sensibly more months than WSFR. The weird global economic conditions seem to have struck a hammer blow to automatic trading. Some night scalpers got away cleanly but most other EAs were dramatically affected. I seriously hope that the market is going to get back to the tradable thing it once was, but as I’m sure you know, it’s not realistic to expect to be able to predict the future behavior of any EA. The current WSFR drawdown is in line with what I’ve seen in my backtests, even lower in fact, but so far September doesn’t look much better than August when it comes to EA performance in general, not only WSFR. All I can do is hope that the performance of WSFR as well as other EAs that are currently in a drawdown picks up eventually. Other than that, actions speak louder than words – the current balance chart of my WSFR forward test account should be quite eloquent when it comes to its performance, both in the past as well as in recent times.
- #245 written by Michael SEPTEMBER 17, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)
- #246 written by hkjonus SEPTEMBER 19, 2011 (4 YEARS AGO)“strange, unusual, weird” , these are the typical words used when EAs start to crash. Its a fallacy to think they will turn around and perform as “expected”. Backtesting is full of pitfalls, and forward performance as well. Good luck, I hope you all can see profits again soon. But its just as likely you will see another 25% down before it goes up. Where does that leave you?
- #247 written by Murray OCTOBER 29, 2011 (3 YEARS AGO)Hi Birt,
Can you please let me know what the new settings are for the AUDUSD and NZDUSD pairs and also for the EURUSD33 pair. I’d like to know the secure profit and secure profit trigger points for each to play with them in backtesting and see if I can come up with anything i like more. Also does the EURUSD33 setting use all the same settings as the standard EURUSD settings apart from the reduced stop loss? - #248 written by birt NOVEMBER 3, 2011 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #253 written by George NOVEMBER 3, 2011 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #254 written by birt NOVEMBER 9, 2011 (3 YEARS AGO)
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- #262 written by hkjonus JANUARY 16, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
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- #264 written by Mr Rex FEBRUARY 2, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #265 written by Andrea MARCH 6, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #266 written by birt MARCH 6, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)ECN is likely the best option for scalpers. You need to find one with good spreads, good execution and if possible good reviews as well. Also make sure that they have a deposit method that suits you.I would suggest starting with the spread chart sites, finding suitable brokers there then proceeding to read some forums for reviews and to find more info about their execution.
- #267 written by Andrea MARCH 6, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)Thanks ..
I am Italian and I wonder just some advice about some names of brokers who feel that has all these features for EA and good reliability.
This allows me to better select the broker having to search in vain.
Pepperstone, ThinkForex, Iamfx, AlpariUK, Activetrade .. these are just some examples.
Thanks to the availability- #268 written by birt MARCH 7, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)I don’t really have much experience with nowadays’ brokers so I’m afraid I can’t point you in the right direction but I’m sure you’ll be able to filter them out. As a rule of the thumb, if an account type has no commission, it’s definitely not ECN. On the other hand, if it has commission, it’s not necessarily ECN and you’ll have to read user feedback to determine that.
- #269 written by hkjonus MARCH 31, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #270 written by birt APRIL 4, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #271 written by cd APRIL 7, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #272 written by Tradenow APRIL 7, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #273 written by Lorraine APRIL 15, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #274 written by birt APRIL 15, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)EURUSD and GBPUSD are doing pretty good but the other pairs seem to hold Wallstreet Forex back. Use the analyze feature on myfxbook and check out the individual pair performance. I think it’s still a good system provided you select the pairs carefully.As for the others, Forex Growth Bot has impressive results, it’s a very good EA but for some reason on my account it went worse than on the developer’s account. Might be because of a setting that I failed to configure until about 1 month ago and due to the fact that I missed a few updates. Regarding MDP, unless you are very experienced with EAs , have the willpower and the financial resources to go through several brokers and VPS services trying different setting combinations, I would advise staying away from it. MDP can be a very profitable EA but getting it to be profitable is very hard.
- #275 written by Lorraine APRIL 15, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #276 written by birt APRIL 15, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)Yeah, I guess so, but you shouldn’t jump into it. Running an EA portfolio is typically a good idea but you have to balance the cost of the investment (EAs can be expensive) with the balance of your account. The EAs you mentioned will exceed $500 and naturally if you will run them on a $1k account with a non-aggressive risk it will take a good while to even make the original investment back, let alone stepping into profit. What I’m trying to say (without any clue about your budget) is that you shouldn’t spend a good percent of your capital (e.g. 20-30%) on EAs. If your initial capital is low, you’re possibly better off choosing a single EA to begin with or perhaps a couple.
- #277 written by Lorraine APRIL 15, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #278 written by Don Ebenezer APRIL 28, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #279 written by birt APRIL 28, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #280 written by Jeff MAY 2, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)Actually (according you your own forward test) the E/U and G/U have not been the best pairs for WSF so far this year, that title goes to the A/U at +109 pips in four months of trading. Profitable yes, but underwhelming.The E/U is at -109 and G/U at -18 to date in 2012. Frankly, WSF is a dud and this is clear by reviewing the stats since the inception of the live test. It’s only broken even in the last 12 months of trading.Add to this no further development of or updates to the WSF EA in a year. Now they want us to buy their latest EA. No thanks. Save your money folks and look elsewhere, this product has essentially been superseded and sent to the scrap heap.As a rule now I avoid any EA that is not undergoing continuous development and updates to adapt to changing market conditions. Take Kangaroo EA for example, there is an ongoing commitment to customers to review, improve and adapt the product and the results speak volumes.
- #281 written by HHD JUNE 14, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #284 written by MartyS JUNE 20, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #285 written by HHD JUNE 20, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #286 written by Budi Harto SEPTEMBER 9, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #287 written by birt SEPTEMBER 12, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #288 written by Ed OCTOBER 17, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #289 written by birt OCTOBER 17, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #290 written by Jeff OCTOBER 18, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)There is only one pair worth trading on WSF, AUD/USD. Anything else is clearly a waste of time. Tracking the performance of the other pairs seems pointless now as this EA is not being developed further (just a news filter added at extra cost). There are better EAs on the market, avoid this one unless you just want to trade the AUD with it.
- #291 written by bismillahwd OCTOBER 22, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #292 written by birt OCTOBER 22, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #293 written by birt OCTOBER 22, 2012 (3 YEARS AGO)
- #294 written by Andrew NOVEMBER 22, 2012 (2 YEARS AGO)I ran Wallstreet for approx 6 months and never made a dime, real account. It will go along and hit one wining trade after another but turn around and loose everything it made in one trade. It has a tendency to buy or sell at exactly the wrong time and it won’t stop the losses, if the market change happens quickly. It hasn’t been rare to wake up and note I was a few hundered in the hole and the trades were still active at a considerable loss. I would seriously consider staying away form this EA.
- #295 written by james DECEMBER 11, 2012 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #296 written by albatore FEBRUARY 5, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #297 written by Jose FEBRUARY 21, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #298 written by birt FEBRUARY 28, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #299 written by bismillahwd MARCH 2, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #300 written by george APRIL 9, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #301 written by Ilioas Ellas MAY 19, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)According to the live WS account, the best results and most conservative trades, are to be had using EUR33 and GBP30: the live account can be viewed at:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexwallstreet/wallstreet-forex-robot-eur33-real/372006I would like to know if any members have used this currency combination and would share their results with us to compare these results with other live (real) accounts.- #302 written by Iovios MAY 20, 2013 (2 YEARS AGO)
- #303 written by MOCHAMAD ICHSAN HASJIM FEBRUARY 23, 2014 (1 YEAR AGO)
- #304 written by Florin JULY 15, 2014 (1 YEAR AGO)
- #305 written by Fadi DECEMBER 1, 2014 (10 MONTHS AGO)Hello traderswhats new about wall street robot?
do you get the same trades as myfxbook?
why people ask for refund ?Help please, i am confused between REV trader or wall streetthax